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Spotlight On: The Rear Palaces Of Dynastic China (Part 2) [Dec. 19th, 2004|06:47 pm]
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YAY!! I finally finished pencils for the whole book!!! "The Dreaming" is now officially 172 pages in total, including chapter dividers. I'll start inking next week. WOOOOH!! But first, part 2 of the Rear Palace series (I've been lazy about this, I know).

The Empress
The rear palace is presided over by the empress, often referred to as the "ruler of the 3 palaces and 6 gardens". The empress is the official wife of the emperor, and her authority extends over all concubines, eunuchs and female servants. She supposedly has no power in state affairs, but frequently commune with government officials anyway to keep herself informed of state affairs. She also ensures the proper observation of court etiquette, and can mete out punishments (including death) to those that toe the line. She has her own seal of authority, and can issue official edicts to those under her jurisdiction. Therefore, it is reasonable to say that the position of empress should (theoretically) be untouchable. However, while the empress does have and CAN use all these powers, few do - because the ACTUAL power of the empress is directly-proportionate to how highly she is favoured by the emperor. And an empress has every reason to fear losing favour.


Wu Zetian of the Tang dynasty - she was a concubine who deposed an empress, became an empress, then seized power and declared herself emperor, where she ruled for 15 years. She was an excellent ruler too.


Empresses are usually chosen by the emperor's parents for the crown prince before he is crowned. Therefore, empresses are more likely to be chosen for their virtue and family connections rather than personality or beauty. The "virtue" part is especially important - empresses are referred to by all as the "Mother of the Nation", and a certain moral stature is expected of her. An empress is supposed to keep the emperor focussed on running the country, and not indulge him - that is the job of the concubines. As you'd expect, there may not be any romance between the emperor and the empress. And should the emperor not favour his empress, she is unlikely to bear any children.

Not having any male heirs is a very real danger to the empress' position, as only the empress' sons can become the crown prince. Princes sired by concubines are not legitimate - UNLESS the current empress is removed, and the concubine with the son is made the new empress. An administration without an empress and a crown prince is considered unstable, so these two positions are usually filled as soon as the emperor can agree with his court officials on a candidate. As you can see, a son-less empress can lead to a rear palace filled with venom and intrigue; as the concubines with male children jockeyed with each other and conspired with the eunuchs to depose the empress (and other opponents).

That is not to say an empress can easily be deposed. Empresses are often politically well-connected, as there is a tendency for their male relatives to suddenly sky-rocket to positions of influence with their coronation. You can change empresses on whim either, so an emperor who wishes to depose the current empress in favour of a concubine had better have a very, very good reason. Not having any children is rarely a good reason to convince the court officials, and most upwardly-mobile concubines know this. Hence the most often way of empresses being deposed involve some sort of witchcraft accusation, often planted by eunuchs and female servants (though some empresses willingly engaged in it to eradicate rivals). Witchcraft is forbidden in the rear palace, and empresses who are accused of it find it near impossible to counter the charge, especially when it is brought about by the favourite concubine of the emperor.

Empresses in this situation are most certainly doomed. They will not be killed, but suffer a fate worse than death. They will find themselves stripped of their title and flung into a special part of the palace reserved for concubines who have fallen from grace - the "Cold Palace".

To Be Continued...
Picture From: http://www.history.ubc.ca/lshin/teaching/311/week10/wuzetian.htm
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[User Picture]From: [info]tanhauser
2004-12-19 09:13 am (UTC)

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Oh my god you're bleedingly fast...
I've been working on my submission for a few weeks now and I haven't even finished page 4 yet -_-....
[User Picture]From: [info]queeniechan
2004-12-20 06:45 am (UTC)

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You really gotta push yourself, Sid... speed is very important when it comes to doing comics. I suspect you're being really perfectionist... are you? ;)
[User Picture]From: [info]tanhauser
2004-12-21 12:56 am (UTC)

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Well considering its the 5 samples pages that will make or break the proposal, I really can't have any major errors in my pages. I'll probably slack off later on and just churn out as many pages as i can XD
[User Picture]From: [info]queeniechan
2004-12-21 06:39 am (UTC)

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Actually, no matter who you're submitting to, you're best off submitting more than 5 sample pages. Probably about 10-15. 5 is simply not enough, unless you're looking for an inking or toning job. That's just my advice anyway.
[User Picture]From: [info]tanhauser
2004-12-21 08:23 am (UTC)

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Hrm...are you sure about that?
Because they ask for no more than 5 in their submission guideline...
[User Picture]From: [info]queeniechan
2004-12-21 09:28 am (UTC)

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Yes, they DO ask for only 5, but if they are interested in your work, they will ask for more. Obviously you won't get penalised or anything for submitting 5 pages, but because they are looking for the ability to tell a story, more than 5 will probably help. Ofcourse, if you don't want to do any more, or you don't have time, then don't. :) I'm just offering a suggestion. Please don't think you HAVE to do more than 5.
[User Picture]From: [info]tanhauser
2004-12-21 09:39 am (UTC)

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Ok cool, the 5 pages plus 8 more are going into the next generations comic anyway(mainly to cover my intellectual property and whanot).
So I guess I'll submit the required amount for now and send them the remaining 8 if they request it I guess.
[User Picture]From: [info]minakokenshou
2004-12-22 09:23 pm (UTC)

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Congrats on finishing up the pencils! That's quite an achievement. ^_^ I'm surprised that you are already so deep it into the book. I do understand that you working on it long before it was ever announced, of course, but still, wow, that was quick! I'm curious, how long does it take you to do a penciled page?
[User Picture]From: [info]queeniechan
2004-12-22 11:55 pm (UTC)

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Oh! It's (the creator of) Peach Fuzz! Welcome to my livejournal! :D Also, congradulations for getting Peach Fuzz on the shelves! You've got it made, sister.

I must, however, first say that my "pencils" are more like storyboards and can't be deciphered by anyone other than myself. I go directly from rough draft to inking, so it doesn't really answer your question if I tell you it takes me about a day to do 4 "pencilled" pages. However, planning it takes a large chunk of the time up.

It's see... I started 9th Oct and ended 19th Dec, with 173 pgs done. Which means that over 71 days, I did about 2.4 pages a day. Which is amazing low, to be honest. But like I said, it takes far mroe time to plan it than to draw it. :(

How long does it take for you to pencil, ink and tone a page?
[User Picture]From: [info]minakokenshou
2004-12-23 06:33 pm (UTC)

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Well, "ganbatte"! I'm looking forward to your book. When you originally posted on Pseudome's board a long while back, I remember thinking, "this girl has some professional looking comics.. Tokyopop would be foolish not to get something going with her". ^_- By the way, is your editor Jodi (she's my editor)? She mentioned someone in Australia who only celebrates Chinese New Year's a while back -- that's gotta be you, right?

As for how long it takes me... ^^;;
It takes me about a week to rough out a chapter (of approx 28 pages, give or take as required). 2 days for scripting, followed by 5 days for thumbnails. All the text is typed up and carefully fitted into word bubbles at this point too. Throughout the entire process (from roughs to finals), the script is constantly refined and reworked until I'm satisfied.

Then it takes about a day per each fully penciled page (sometimes I can manage two, depending on the page's complexity). I could reduce the time it takes by doing far looser pencils, but since I have to communicate all my details to my inker, I need to make sure the pencils are extremely tight. This involves going over the page multiple times, and painstakingly erasing unnecessary lines. For the second volume, I'm might try experimenting with inking it myself--going straight from loose pencils to inks--which might allow me to accomplish a fully penciled and inked page a day, but only if this doesn't lead to a drop in quality.

My partner Jared does most of the inking and toning (I can't remember exactly, but I think he can manage about two to three inked pages a day). I generally am able to finish up my penciled pages about a week before the next batch of roughs is due, so I end up screentoning about 10 pages per chapter myself.
[User Picture]From: [info]queeniechan
2004-12-24 03:16 am (UTC)

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Yay! Thanks to Lindsay! My editor used to be Jodi, but now it's Carol - Jodi just got too saddled with work. And I celebrate Christmas too... I just don't take a break like everyone else. @_@ Australia's not big for Christmas so it's partly the country I live in too. But I still got to take a break now, because Carol has to get some notes to me about the Chapters before I start inking, so she told me to hold everything and wait for that first. ARRGH! So I'm doing the rough covers instead. >_<

And wow, you plan your processes well. I boogie all over the place. You're also lucky to be able to share your workload with someone :LOL:! What I wouldn't give for a toning slave on a chain right now. ;) But I guess shared work brings its fair load of complexities, as you say with communication and all. Anyway, that's why I don't really do the pencils stage - erasing the unnecessary lines is a nightmare of nightmares. I think you may do well if you go straight from loose pencils to inks - though it's best to practise first since you haven't started on the second book yet (I think). It sure saves time. When you're the scripter, storyboarder and inker, you can afford to skip a few stages because you KNOW what you want the finals to look like.